commish3 wrote:Hi optimist
I don't think communism is a relevant term here.
No, communism is very relevant. You didn't say "should be for the good of all", you said "has to be for the good of all". Communism is a system under which its members a required to do what is for the common advantage of all even if it is to your own detriment or to the detriment of your family and friends.
In case you feel that you aren't advising something to the detriment of edbloom's son, I point out that he said both of them were interested in accomplishing these things, not edbloom exclusively. So in denying edbloom you are also denying his son.
commish3 wrote:My point was that acting as a parent he should not be giving extra services to his son that other parents cannot give.
He is not an ASM just for his son, heis an ASM for the troop. Should his services be provided on a preferential basis? I think that is asking to create dischord within the unit.
I think it is great that a parent encourages a Scout to advance. But Ed might find that acting as a dad with his son and as a Scout Leader with the troop without blurring the distinction will make things go a lot smoother for everyone.
Most people don't join Scouting because they want to do things for the betterment of all. If they sought out Scouting, they did so for the betterment of themselves or their family. I know I did.
My decision to become a Scout leader came shortly after my son's birth. I wanted my son to grow up to be a better person than myself so I looked for a way to make that happen. When I picked up a Scout Handbook and read it, I knew I had found the way.
I first became a Scout leader when my son was two. Unlike many other boys in this day and age when Scouting is unfashionable, my son wanted
to be a Scout before he was old enough because he saw the program through my participation in it. He turns twenty-one in a few months now and he would be the first to tell you how much he gained from Scouting and from a father that worked hard for him to make sure he got everything he possibly could from the program.
edbloom has every right to do everything he possibly can for his son and should do so. The people who argue against it in these forums seem to feel like he can't do that and help other kids at the same time. I seriously doubt that any Scout who has ever worked with me would say I shorted them, that I didn't give them 100% of what I had to offer. I simply gave my son 110%.