Guneukitschik wrote:I think we were talking about this on another thread...but here goes....
Well from where I sit...the current requirements for Eagle Scout definitely seem relaxed a bit from the previous requirements. However, my big complaint is that it seems the scouts are younger and younger earning the rank....I believe that the rank of eagle comes with a lot of expectations that most 14 year olds have a hard time living up to.
OldGreyBear wrote:How does one "fly" thorugh the requirements, there are troop activities to attend, knots to tie, shopping trips and cooking assignments to fulfill and swimming to do. Much has been made of the First Class First year program, and most troops are doing well to get most scouts to first class in 18 months, thats not exactly flying
Guneukitschik wrote:15-20 years ago it was rare for a scout to achieve the rank of Eagle Scout that young...now it's definately becoming more common!
I never said I have a rule about what age a scout can earn a MB, I said that I didn’t think the badges were written with a 13 yr old in mind.
Rick Tyler wrote:....I really like the overall mix in the MB program, and think it doesn't need fixing in its direction and purpose (someone needs to rewrite Computers, though, and soon).
Rick Tyler wrote:As for making Eagle Scout, as soon as a boy completes the requirements as outlined in the Boy Scout Handbook, he's an Eagle Scout.
Rick Tyler wrote:As adult leaders let's try to remember that the purpose of scouting is not to make Eagles, or to keep the Undeserving Masses from earning Eagle, it is to help boys grow into men who can make good ethical and moral choices throughout their lives.
optimist wrote:15-20 years ago Scouts didn't have the resources they have today. Back then, if you wanted to earn a merit badge you had to hope your Scout troop library had the merit badge pamphlet you wanted or you had to fork up the cash and pay for it yourself. Now you can get every requirement for every badge off of the internet, not to mention a form to fill out and links to information sources.
Leadership training for both Scouts and their leaders is much more common now. Trained program members accomplish tasks quicker and better.
With the advent of modern materials and manufacturing processes, I think Scouting activities are cheaper overall relative to the costs when I first got involved 18 years ago. Things happen faster in Scouting because it's easier to accomplish the same objectives.
In addition, the average American child is much more worldly than they were 20 years ago. If you don't think so, take a trip to the local mall and try to guess the age of the young girls that seem like they are 17-18 and are actually 13-14. If kids are doing things younger everywhere else, what makes you think they wouldn't be doing things younger in Scouts?
This list could go on and on but it all boils down to one simple statement - things change. With all the differences in the world, comparing Scouts today to Scouts 20 years ago is not effective.
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