FrankJ wrote:Hate to say it. But a five page form for a simple service project (-027)? Clearly a committee syndrome kind of idea. The questions on the form are not bad questions, well most of them anyway, but not every service project needs that kind of scrutiny. A properly done eagle project plan already addresses most of these questions.
Other questions the form brings up
How many units require non-scouts that show up to complete the health form?
How many units do a full blown reflection after every service project. (Start, stop, continue is a reflection). Not that doing some kind of reflection after a project is a bad thing. For eagle projects it is call completing the project write up.
How many people do you know that a)actually own a pair of steel toe boots? B) Of those how many only have them because their paid job requires them?
So ladders over 6 feet are not permitted on service projects?
Cubs are not allowed to bring their little red wagons to service projects?
Frank...I had your questions forwarded to the folks who hopefully will send back responses.
6yearscouter wrote:wheelbarrows as long as properly loaded don't seem to have that much risk either. An improperly loaded wheelbarrow is dangerous for anyoe. that is if a 1 or 2 wheeled cart = wheelbarrow?
6yearscouter wrote:I also do not see the inherent risk in a 11-14 year old using a small handheld sander or a dremel if given the proper training. these things are just as dangerous in the hands of a 14 year old, and being small handheld power tools doesn't make them safer just because a scout is a year older.
Nuts4Scouts wrote:Then there is the lawn mower idiocy. Residential lawn mowers (self-propelled and riding) are only allowed for 16 and older? While I can understand somewhat the riding mowers, the restriction for self-propelled is just downright silly. Obviously the folks who wrote this up don't have their kids do yard chores, and/or hire gardeners. On your garden (sorry! ) variety self-propelled home (residential) mower the self-propelling feature makes it easier for younger kids and creaky old folks (like me) to push the things around the yard. They also come with a variety of safety features, one of which is that a bar has to be held down to keep the front wheels engaged. Open your hands, and you have a manual push mower. My kids were cutting grass since they were taller than the mower handle. Again, younger than 14.
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