Ok, I think I have vented well enough now...lol.

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kwildman wrote:BSAs model for troop organization is an older venture patrol, several mixed patrols, and a new scout patrol. Granted not everyone has a large enough troop to make this work. When our troop was smaller we mixed the older and younger. Now we have a new scout patrol with an ASM assigned specifically to that patrol. The advantage is that the new scouts need more "adult" help and they are focused on getting T21 finished their first year. These activities don't mesh well with the program for older scouts. The SPL and ASPL are also tasked with helping or providing help for the new scout patrol when they are working on scout fundamentals.
Merely separating the kids into patrols isn't enough you need to make them work independently. Part of being boy led is that you need to let them fail sometimes and then hopefully they can learn from their mistakes. SM conferences are good tool to use to re-motivate youth. The troop committee should also be getting feedback from the youth on what they want. Has your youth leadership done the troop leadership training? TLT is a great program if it is incorporated into your program and routinely used.
kwildman wrote:BSAs model for troop organization is an older venture patrol
wagionvigil wrote:Philmont has there own rules that sometimes go against BSA's other policies.
wagionvigil wrote:The COPE courses at the NJ won't pass a camp inspection but will pass a ropes course inspection is another twist. I like the idea of the Venture patrol visiting a crew and taking part as long as they take applications with them and they only do it once. I was at a Venrturing/ Girl Scout event a couple of weeks ago and all the GUSA troops there ended up Getting registered as Crews.
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