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Postby Scout55 » Mon May 16, 2005 5:13 pm

do u need to wear class a for board of review?
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Postby wagionvigil » Mon May 16, 2005 5:15 pm

We all do here. If you are an adult and registered with the troop you bare expected to be in Uniform. If a scout the same!
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Postby Lynda J » Mon May 16, 2005 5:26 pm

A scout must be in as much of his uniform as he owns to attend a BOR.
We do have a couple of boys that simply can not afford the pants. But they must be in jeans that are clean and not torn. And the remainder of the uniform must be there.

It is a real problem with the cost of the pants. With a kid that grows so fast. Kevin is one of the smallest boys in our troop. He has outgrown pair of pants and a pair of shorts so far this year. I keep watch at all the resale shops for uniforms.
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Postby ASM-142 » Mon May 16, 2005 5:26 pm

Class A is required for both SM conference and BOR in my troop
If it is not written down then it is not an official rule
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Postby PaulSWolf » Mon May 16, 2005 5:58 pm

ASM-142 wrote:Class A is required for both SM conference and BOR in my troop
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If it is not written down then it is not an official rule
Your tag line is quite correct. The written down rule of BSA is:
Advancement Committee Policies and Procedures (33088E) wrote:The Scout should be neat in his appearance and his uniform should be as correct as possible, with the badges worn properly.
So if he HAS a full uniform, he should wear it with the patches sewn on in their proper position. If he has only a shirt, he should wear it with the patches sewn on in their proper position.. If he has NO uniform, he may still appear , dressed neatly, and the lack of a uniform may NOT be counted against him.
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Postby evmori » Mon May 16, 2005 8:03 pm

Paul,
While I agree with what you posted, since the BSA doesn't require a uniform for membership requiring one for anything is adding to the requirements.
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Postby ASM-142 » Mon May 16, 2005 8:46 pm

At times things are not as clear as they seem. The Boy Scut Handbook states "Wear full uniform for all ceremonial and indoor activities, such as troop meetings, courts of honor, and most other indoor functions". In re-reading this section of the handbook it may not (or may not) be mandatory to wear a uniform but the uniform does allow all boys to have the feeling of equal (e.g., no one's clothes are better then someone else's clothes.)
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Postby Scouting179 » Mon May 16, 2005 9:39 pm

Why would you not want to wear a uniform, as much as you have and can afford? You should be proud to wear it as it is a symbol of something you belong to and hopefully are proud to be a part of. You should want to look neat and sharp, not sloppy.

If you can afford game boys, cell phones, playstations, etc; you can afford a uniform.
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Postby Mick Scouter » Mon May 16, 2005 10:54 pm

Agree, Agree and Agree, Scouts and uniforms are important but they are not the most important thing. Wear the uniform, be proud of the uniform that is a link between each and every scout.
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Postby Scouting179 » Tue May 17, 2005 5:54 am

Agree. The most important thing is delivering a quality program. Teaching pride in oneself, which being proud of being a Scout and your uniform, is a part of that.
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Postby Mrw » Tue May 17, 2005 6:57 am

We expect them to be in as much uniform as possible for a BOR. It shows they care about what they are doing.

I have seen boys trying to get a buddy to lend a neckercheif or slide whnen one has been forgotten on a BOR night!
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Postby Chief J » Tue May 17, 2005 9:17 am

In our Troop, All members of the BOR (Scouts and Adults) must be in as much uniform as they own. Additionally, all patches must be properly sewn on the unifrom as well.

We do not allow any jeans or sneakers to be worn at a BOR. At the minimum, the scout must wear khaki, brown, green, etc. shorts or pants. They must also wear hiking boots or shoes.
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Postby commish3 » Tue May 17, 2005 10:18 am

I believe what the Advancement Committee Policies and Procedures manual requires is that the scout wear "as complete and correct a uniform as is possible", or something very similar to those words.

Remeber thatthe methods are there for us as leaders not as instructions to the scout. Do you see the scouting methods listed in the Boy Scout handbook?
No, they are in the Scoutmaster handbook.

Good uniforming is dependent on us as leaders. Thats why the biggest hinderance to a scout not working toward a full uniform isn't the scout. It is scout leaders who violate the uniform policies and "alter" the uniform.

When you say the scout can wear dark blue pants in cubs rather than the uniform pants, or some alternate pants in boy scouts then you in effect change the uniform. And as volunteer leaders we do not have that authority.

Uniforming is limping along in most units because scouters continually shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to implementing the uniform method.
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Postby ASM-142 » Tue May 17, 2005 10:47 am

Chief J wrote:In our Troop, All members of the BOR (Scouts and Adults) must be in as much uniform as they own. Additionally, all patches must be properly sewn on the unifrom as well.

We do not allow any jeans or sneakers to be worn at a BOR. At the minimum, the scout must wear khaki, brown, green, etc. shorts or pants. They must also wear hiking boots or shoes.


You allow scouts to have alternate pants when scouting pants are part of the uniform but you do not allow them to wear sneakers when footwear is not specified as part of the uniform.
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Postby ASM-142 » Tue May 17, 2005 10:50 am

commish3 wrote:I believe what the Advancement Committee Policies and Procedures manual requires is that the scout wear "as complete and correct a uniform as is possible", or something very similar to those words.

Remeber thatthe methods are there for us as leaders not as instructions to the scout. Do you see the scouting methods listed in the Boy Scout handbook?
No, they are in the Scoutmaster handbook.

Good uniforming is dependent on us as leaders. Thats why the biggest hinderance to a scout not working toward a full uniform isn't the scout. It is scout leaders who violate the uniform policies and "alter" the uniform.

When you say the scout can wear dark blue pants in cubs rather than the uniform pants, or some alternate pants in boy scouts then you in effect change the uniform. And as volunteer leaders we do not have that authority.

Uniforming is limping along in most units because scouters continually shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to implementing the uniform method.


Like the Scoutmaster handbook, the Advancement Committee Policies and Procedures manual is for adults and not for scouts.

The Scout Handbook, which is for scouts states:

Wear full uniform for all ceremonial and indoor activities, such as troop meetings, courts of honor, and most other indoor functions
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Re: board of review

Postby Billiken » Tue May 17, 2005 2:58 pm

Scout55 wrote:do u need to wear class a for board of review?


We expect full-dress (including merit badge sash) uniform, to the extent the scout has one (or parts thereof).
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Postby Mick Scouter » Tue May 17, 2005 6:17 pm

I sure do enjoy reading the differences. My guess BSA suggests but does not regulate.
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Postby wagionvigil » Tue May 17, 2005 6:40 pm

BSA uses the word SHOULD in alot of things instead of MUST
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Postby evmori » Tue May 17, 2005 7:21 pm

wagionvigil wrote:BSA uses the word SHOULD in alot of things instead of MUST


Excellent point!
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Postby Buffalo Bill » Wed May 18, 2005 11:05 am

We've put it in writing for our Troop. 2nd Class and below: Scout shirt with neat, clean, properly fitting, shorts or pants is OK. 1st Class and above: Full Scout uniform must be worn for BOR. Reasoning is that, by 1st Class the boy should be able to have earned enough $$ and have made a comittment to the program.

We wear uniform while traveling and Scouts keep Scout shirts and Class B's tucked in while out in public. We have Troop Class B's and hats, as well as neckers.
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