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Postby wagionvigil » Fri May 20, 2011 6:33 am

Applications are now available
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Re: 2013 NJ

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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby wagionvigil » Fri May 20, 2011 10:58 am

Try without the WWW. I went right to it
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby RWSmith » Fri May 20, 2011 1:03 pm

Billiken wrote:Internet Explorer unable to display page

If you're still having problems w/ it, report back here w/ you OS, browser, firewall, anti-virus, et al, versions.
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby wagionvigil » Fri May 20, 2011 1:07 pm

RW I was using Chrome
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby RWSmith » Fri May 20, 2011 1:18 pm

wagionvigil wrote:RW I was using Chrome

Well, I have noticed their sites usually go up-n-down during "normal" office hours; which seems to be when their web-coding gets done... highly unusual (by industry standards)... FWIW.
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby PaulSWolf » Fri May 20, 2011 5:16 pm

I edited the original post to delete the WWW, so the link should work now.
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby wagionvigil » Fri May 20, 2011 7:04 pm

Job titles are very different check with your senior if applying for an old job
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby wagionvigil » Wed May 25, 2011 7:17 am

When you click I agree on the application You agree also to only bring what fits into the Jambo 13 kit that will be supplied to you. If it don't fit you cannot bring it.
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby wagionvigil » Tue May 31, 2011 7:01 am

- There will be a need for approximately 9,000 staff members
> - There will be a total of six villages. One will be for staff, one will b=
e for Venturing, four for all others. The villages (other than staff) will b=
e divided into four supcamps. None of the camps or villages will be based on=
regions. All participants will be mixed together, but the method how chosen=
was not discussed.
> =20
> The following is about staff only:
> - All staff except for very few subcamp staffers will stay in the Staff Vi=
llage.
> - Housing for staff will be four-man tents with two staffers per tent. The=
tents will be furnished and pre-setup.
> - There will be NO electricity in the staff tents what so ever. DO NOT bri=
ng fans, lamps, etc. Think of basic primitive camping.
> - Electricity will be available for recharging, but NOT in tents.
> - (assuming staff arriving by car here) You will park your car in a storag=
e area off site from the Summit. You will then carry all of your personal be=
longings that you will need for the entire time to a bus. You will then be d=
riven by bus to the staff village and dropped off. You will return to the pa=
rking area by the same method at the time of departure. NO PERSONAL CARS wil=
l ever be allowed to drive onto the summit property.
> - If you have non-personal stuff that you need to perform your staff dutie=
s, there are two methods of delivery - 1) You will ship it to a designated l=
ocation and the Summit will then transport it to the area of the Jamboree f=
or you ahead of time. When you arrive, you will then retrieve it and set it=
up. or 2) You bring it with you, you place it in a container that will be o=
ff site of the Summit, then that container will be brought onsite to a desig=
nated area within the Summit and you will retrieve it and then carry it (bes=
t you can) to your working site. (Personal note - if you ship it, it will be=
taken to your work area. If you bring it, you will carry it to your site fr=
om who knows where).
> - Dining will be at the staff area. Meal times will be greatly expanded. S=
ome breakfasts may be "carry with you" type. Example of meal times may be di=
nner from 5 PM until 10 PM. Snack area within staff area may be open 24/7. (=
They did not say if snack are part of fee or for purchase).
> - There will be shower and flush toilets. NO HOT WATER EVER. Shower stalls=
will have partitions for privacy and each will be divided into wet area and=
dry area. Shower activated by pull chain. Pull to turn on, release to turn o=
ff.
> - There will be limited laundry facilities. Again, think basic camping. Th=
e thought for participants is that they will only wear their uniform twice, o=
pening and closing shows.
> =20
> Following applies for everyone:
> - The Body Mass Index rules will be strictly enforced. If you are over the=
limit, your physician will have to sign a release that you are fit to serve=
. No other excuses allowed.
> - There will be no bus or other transportation available once on Summit pr=
operty. You WILL walk EVERYWHERE except when being transported off site for d=
ays of service or High Adventure trips.
> - The distance from the staff camp to Summit Center (This is an actual nam=
ed area) is one-half mile and a change in elevation of 200 feet. As a staffe=
r, you will walk this at least twice a day.
> - Someone asked if there would be Action Centers. The answer was that the e=
ntire Summit is one big Action Center.
> - Merit Badge Midway was not discussed at all.
> - It is the intent of the "Jamboree" to have WOW factors every day at 10 A=
M, 2 PM and 4 PM. These were described as Jamboree-wide events that will daz=
zle and excite the participants. Things like military demonstrations, concer=
ts, etc.
> - There will be six zip lines installed. The question was asked how many s=
couts per hour can use the zip lines. The answer was looked up and returned a=
s 1800 scouts per hour per line.
> - ALL areas such as zip lines are being designed and installed by recogniz=
ed national experts.
> - In years past, many staffers and others would stay in hotels off propert=
y and then arrive daily at the Jamboree to work. There will be no transporta=
tion available for this to happen at the Summit. Please, do not plan on stay=
ing off property, even if it is available (no hotels in the area as of right=
now). If you are on staff, plan on staying in the staff village. If you can=
not do that, do not come.
> - Temperatures. The temperature of the Summit was tracked on the exact sam=
e days of the 2010 Jamboree. Overall temps were 10-20 degrees lower every da=
y. (Note here, plan for very cool nights).
> - Handicapped facilities - The only area designed under the ADA rules will=
be the Summit Center. Although specific information was not discussed about=
who could be on staff with handicaps and where they would be housed, it was=
made clear that there will be limited facilities IF NEEDED, but the entire S=
ummit is not ADA accessible.
> =20
> Medical facilities:
> - There was great concern for the health and safety of the participants as=
this will be a much more "active" Jamboree and the potential for injury wil=
l be much higher.
> - Everyone will be required to wear safety gear during all activites. No e=
xemptions.
> - There will be seven helicopter landing areas throughout the Summit
> - Emergency vehicles are the only transportation allowed during the Jambor=
ee
> - Hospitals in the area are being contacted and are aware of what is comin=
g.
> - It should also be noted here that the entire area is very excited about t=
he BSA coming to town. The Police of Mt. Hope West Virginia have already cha=
nged their "patch" to reflect "The Home of the Summit".
> =20
> Troop equipment:
> - Each troop and crew will be furnished with all camping equipment needed f=
or the entire time.
> - The campsites will not be set up prior to arrival (except staff tentage)=
. All troops and crew will use the same style/type tents, stoves, cooking po=
ts and such. A video will be created and sent to contingents showing how to u=
se each BEFORE they arrive. Since all equipment is the same, subcamp staff w=
ill have replacement parts and knowledge of how it all works.
> =20
> Summit going Green:
> - It was explained that all building materials are being harvested onsite.=
All shower houses are being built from trees on site.
> - Shower and sink water will be filtered and then used to flush toilets, t=
hen out to septic systems.
> - Water will be carried by everyone in their own water bottles. NO bottled=
water will be on site in order to cut down on trash.
> =20
> Visitors:
> - Visitors and participants WILL NEVER mix. The visitors will have to pre-=
register and a max of (I think) 25,000 a day will be allowed.
> - Visitors will be given a mini-Jamboree experience but will not compete w=
ith participants for activity time or space.
> - There will be a cost per visitor. Although no price was mentioned in the=
meeting, a separate conversation I had discussed the price of between $50 t=
o $75.
> - At no time will visitors be able to visit with their son/daughter except=
in the designated visiting area. Visitors will not be allowed in the villag=
es at any time.
> - It was never discussed about visitors attending opening and closing show=
s. I got the feeling from the attitude that the answer is no.
> =20
> Visiting the Summit now:
> - It was asked if anyone can tour the Summit now. Mike Patrick said NO! Th=
ey have two crews working two 10-hour shifts at the moment and there are no f=
acilities to handle "tours" and it is not safe just to show up to see the pl=
ace. There are plans to give a one-time tour to Council Scout Executives thi=
s summer. Please, do not attempt to come and visit at this time.
> =20
> =20
> It is important to keep in mind that based on what I heard in the breakout=
session that if you have ever staffed a Jamboree at Ft A.P. Hill, this will=
not be like that. This is all completely different. Mr. Furst said that the=
re will be mistakes made as they are still learning, but that it will not be=
due to a lack of trying to do the right thing. Also he mentioned that there=
will be four "Jamborees" taking place at the Summit within eight years. The=
military has made a commitment to be a part of the 2013 Jamboree; however, t=
hey will be guests of the BSA this time.
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby dmacrye » Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:44 pm

I submitted my staff application for Videography in the Administration Group. Cant wait to learn more about Jambo 2013.
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby wagionvigil » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:55 am

A couple more things I learned Yesterday
The Summit will not be wheelchair friendly it is a High Adventure base
The BMI will be strictly enforced even for the BSA people, one has lost 78 pounds already
If you need a breathing machine being accepted will be very difficult
There will be a place for people to go to register to visit. Preregistration is highly recommended and you just cannot say I need to visit with 20 people Each must be listed individually by name so you know where this is going. One name one visit, no more then 25000 in any day. Period!

All visitors will be bussed in so all you can bring is you. Along with this visitors will never be allowed out of the Visitor village.

If you wish to take part in The Action area in the Village you will pay along with your entrance fee. WE have heard from 50-80$ to do the action area.
Plan on walking there will be NO bus transportation at the Jamboree site.
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby wagionvigil » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:18 pm

More Information

I’m giving this information to all on my distribution lists from the Jamboree. There are some issues that everyone needs to be aware of if considering applying for staff at the 2013 Jamboree.

The site is in the West Virginia mountain area and is a previous coal mining site. Think – Hills, Hills and more hills. There will be a staff village that is segregated from the participant village areas. Although the participant villages are arranged such that no youth has to walk more than 1.5 miles from their sub-camp to any activity area, the same can not be stated for the staff village and areas of assignment. Although some discussion is underway there currently are no plans for transportation of staff or participants.

The staff housing will be 4 person tents. For the most part everything necessary for the jamboree camping experience will be supplied. Visualize a duffle bag, day pack and sleeping bag. There is no electricity planned for the tent areas. Cell phone charging will be available in the village. There are no hot water heaters, water is not cold but showers will be at ambient temperature. There is no off-site housing, everyone will be housed on the jamboree site. There may be some staff housing in the sub-camps if the staff numbers exceed those that were anticipated at the time of the original design and layout.

Finally, a Body Mass Index requirement stated on the application will be enforced. There will not be an automatic rejection of an initial application but the registration requires a signed agreement indicating one will “Be Prepared” at the time of the Jamboree. Therefore there WILL BE a rejection at the time of physical submittal in 2013 if the BMI is above the criteria. Our National Commissioner, Tico Perez, has prepared a video that everyone should watch. There is an effort being made to require viewing of the video prior to registration but the process is not in place yet. Watching the video is highly recommended.

I am supplying this information 2 years ahead of time so everyone can be aware and take the appropriate measures. I know a number of Scouters that are making physical condition a higher priority after attending the Jamboree informational session at the most recent National Annual Meeting in San Diego. If you are involved in recruiting or approving staff please give this consideration and insure your recruits understand and are not surprised or disappointed.

Forewarned is Forearmed as our forefathers were fond of reminding the population.

Please share with anyone that you believe can utilize the information.



Thanks



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SPLAT – 2013

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Walk the Walk

Postby Billiken » Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:27 am

The physical fitness initiative (i.e. meeting the BMI target) for BSA professional staff is a program called Walk the Walk.

Neat name, referring to the cliche "If you're gonna talk the talk*, you gotta walk the walk."

*regarding physical fitness
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Re: 2013 NJ

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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby wagionvigil » Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:40 am


Tico has lost over 70 pounds
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby wagionvigil » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:23 am

I learned this week that each application will be reviewed by the head of the section you applied to. Those that are picked initially may be contacted and then be required to submit a resume for that area you are working. I will use climbing Rappelling as an example.
There will be 2 climbing / Bouldering managers and 2 rappelling/leap of faith managers. Those were selected by the senior BSA section managers. I believe that list from the last jamboree will be used and recommendations from the managers from 10 will be used for final selection.
I am one of the rappelling/leap of faith managers along with Randy Perry from western region.
I will be attending a meeting at the Summit the end of October.

AT the Powder Horn Last weekend Dave from the Summit came in and did a great presentation about the summit. They are working 24 7 and it will be ready for the Jamboree. For anyone that has attended a World Jamboree this is more what 2013 will be like. Not what the scouters are used to at the Hill.
He showed that there will be gateways of sort that will be supplied by BSA.
AS I find out information I will post it here.
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby smtroop168 » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:35 am

wagionvigil wrote:I am one of the leap of faith managers


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby wagionvigil » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:53 am

smtroop168 wrote:
wagionvigil wrote:I am one of the leap of faith managers


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

kind of my reaction also 110' pamper pole!
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Re: 2013 NJ

Postby wagionvigil » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:43 am

Airports close to the Summit
Pittsburgh International 3.53 hours 239 miles

Charlotte International 4.14 hours 261 Miles

I would not fly into Charleston.I Hate Yeager Airport
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