ronin718 wrote:I understand the purpose of these mandatory campouts. However, the letter of the law states that all participants participate in one of these events, and if they can't attend the one their own council is putting on, they can attend one for another council. This is what this young man is trying to do.
Cowboy wrote:First: Why did Council wait so late to hold this? Our boys have had two campouts already just to make sure that everything is ready to go. Second: This is about getting the Troop to work together. How is he going to know the team and be able to work with them if he has not already done it. The reason they mandate that the boys do this is so that everyone learns the strengths and weaknesses of the others. BSA has learned from long experience that just throwing the boys into a pile does not work. My 2¢ : He gets the choice: Go to the Campout as REQUIRED or go on vacation. What next? He hasn't made 1st Class, but that is because mom & dad did not take him to Troop meetings?
smtroop168 wrote:"Mandatory Campouts"? Is this BSA law?
Billiken wrote:smtroop168 wrote:"Mandatory Campouts"? Is this BSA law?
Just above the parent signature line in the Centennial Jambo application it said (basically):
".....and agree to participate in the pre-jamboree training experience."
Participants (parents) contractually agreed that they would attend the training campout.
So yes, it's a condition of participation, just like payment of the fee.
Our council contingent campout was scheduled before applications were even accepted in 2008.
(It's June 4-6.)
Our four troops were "built" in the summer of 2009.
Our troops have been meeting (nearly monthly) since September 2009.
All patrols, leadership, and positions of resonsibility have been in place since October 2009.
I agree that attending a pre-jambo training weekend with another troop defeats the primary purpose of the campout (to better get to know the other members of the Jambo troop).
How does one have a family emergency over a month from now?
Fred Johnson wrote:Jamboree rules seem to be different. The jamboree rules I've learned lately are about the "safest ever". Found without your water bottle or with an empty water bottle, brought back to camp and denied access to program area for the rest of the day. Found without your buddy, 1st infraction, whole troop delayed one hour from program area. 2nd infraction, two hours whole troop. 3rd infraction, ....
Where or from whom did you hear the above rules??????
Fred Johnson wrote:Where or from whom did you hear the above rules??????
The members of my son's jamboree troop received it via email from his jamboree troop scoutmaster. The scoutmaster received it as part of the communication of the "safest ever" initiative at the jamboree mandatory camp out from the jamboree communication local council person.
wagionvigil wrote:According to my council executive that just called The scout MUST attend with HIS Troops shakedown or drop his slot. There is no option to attend another shakedown.
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