Our troop - and a significant number of others - does not camp on Sundays (i.e. no Saturday nights, as this goes into Sunday; and no Sunday nights for scout camp - they check in Monday morning), so scout camp is 5 days maximum and "weekend" campouts are 1 night only - just Friday. Unfortunately, for the last 3 years, the scout leaders had a lot of conflicts (and just didn't seem interested in camping in general, IMO) and the troop has only camped a few times each year other than summer camp. This makes it hard for the boys to earn Camping in a reasonable period of time since all campouts must be Scouting related.
It's not impossible, of course, we'll get there. But not being able to count additional summer camps for even 1 night does make a difference. After 3 years of scouting, attending every troop campout, my two sons have only 13 or 14 "nights". At this rate, it will be 2-3 more years of scouting to get to 20. Although he will soon be a Varsity Scout and the Varsity scouts do a high adventure trip each year, IF that counts. However, wouldn't high adventure campouts be "long term" camping???? Is "long term" ONLY traditional summer camp? If so, shouldn't it say it that way? Ugh ...
I'm not trying to be difficult, I just want to make sure we (our family) are doing this as truly intended and don't mess up by thinking we CAN count things (like High Adventure campouts) that we shouldn't, or NOT count things we can (like not counting ANYthing for additional summer camps, etc.) when we are already having a hard time getting to 20 nights of scout-related camping.
I can't imagine we are the only troop with this problem and these questions. Sadly, I know lots of troops don't function as ideally as the program is intended to function. Scouting leaders are, after all, volunteers who have other obligations and a life and family outside of scouting. Are others just glossing this over and counting things that really shouldn't count because the wording isn't crystal clear???